with irene, it was about a foot, two feet shorter than this. that's one of the things we'll be watching with the subway system. if the saltwater gets in, there's corrosion, it's a mess. that would be a multi-million dollar disaster. the last time that happened was with dawn. well up the eeriest sound, the wind whipping 20, 30 miles an hour higher than what we're dealing with down here at the surface, there are two cranes attached up there. they've been shaking all day. but it's just a fascinating storm. it's 58 degrees in new york city. yet there's a storm surge coming up, the highest we've ever seen in new york city's recorded history. just an amazing storm, guys. i'm going to go on record, i won't admit it to him, you can tell doug kammerer he did pretty well on this one. >> all right. we'll tell him you said that. bill, i want to ask you this, here in the washington area, most of the local officials told the folks to stay indoors to shelter in place, stay off the streets. and everywhere we go, we see people who are still brave enough to vent